Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/11/2005 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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+ HB 66 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
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+ HB 67 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS/CBR TELECONFERENCED
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+ Sub-Committee Reports to Full Committee TELECONFERENCED
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+= SB 130 WORKERS' COMPENSATION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 130(FIN) Out of Committee
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 130(JUD)                                                                                            
     "An   Act  relating   to  a   special  deposit   for   workers'                                                            
     compensation  and employers'  liability  insurers; relating  to                                                            
     assigned   risk  pools;  relating   to  workers'  compensation                                                             
     insurers;  stating the intent  of the legislature, and  setting                                                            
     out limitations,  concerning the interpretation,  construction,                                                            
     and implementation  of workers' compensation  laws; relating to                                                            
     the  Alaska  Workers'  Compensation  Board;  assigning  certain                                                            
     Alaska  Workers' Compensation  Board functions to the  division                                                            
     of  workers'  compensation  in  the  Department  of  Labor  and                                                            
     Workforce  Development and to that department,  and authorizing                                                            
     the board to delegate  administrative and enforcement duties to                                                            
     the  division;  providing  for  workers'  compensation  hearing                                                            
     officers  in workers'  compensation  proceedings;  relating  to                                                            
     workers'  compensation medical benefits and to  charges for and                                                            
     payment   of  fees  for  the  medical  benefits;   relating  to                                                            
     agreements  that  discharge  workers'  compensation  liability;                                                            
     relating   to  workers'   compensation   awards;  relating   to                                                            
     reemployment  benefits and job  dislocation benefits;  relating                                                            
     to   coordination   of  workers'   compensation   and   certain                                                            
     disability   benefits;   relating  to   division  of   workers'                                                            
     compensation   records;  relating   to  release  of   treatment                                                            
     records;  relating to an employer's failure to  insure and keep                                                            
     insured or provide  security; relating to workers' compensation                                                            
     proceedings;  providing for a  maximum amount for the  cost-of-                                                            
     living adjustment  for workers' compensation benefits; relating                                                            
     to  attorney  fees  with  respect  to  workers'  compensation;                                                             
     providing  for  the department  to  enter into  contracts  with                                                            
     nonprofit  organizations  to provide  information services  and                                                            
     legal  representation   to injured  employees;   providing  for                                                            
     administrative  penalties  for employers  uninsured or  without                                                            
     adequate  security  for  workers'  compensation;   relating  to                                                            
     fraudulent  acts or false or misleading statements  in workers'                                                            
     compensation   and  penalties  for  the  acts  or  statements;                                                             
     providing  for members  of a  limited liability  company  to be                                                            
     included as an employee  for purposes of workers' compensation;                                                            
     establishing  a workers' compensation  benefits guaranty  fund;                                                            
     making conforming  amendments; providing for a study and report                                                            
     by  the medical  services  review committee;  establishing  the                                                            
     Task  Force  on Workers'  Compensation;  and providing  for  an                                                            
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was the first hearing for this bill in the Senate Finance                                                                  
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR RALPH  SEEKINS introduced  the bill  as chair of the  Senate                                                            
Judiciary Committee. The  Judiciary Committee, indicating the effort                                                            
invested, considered  approximately 22 amendments  to this bill. The                                                            
Judiciary Committee  discovered the  volatility of the issue  though                                                            
the receipt of  many telephone calls from small business  operators.                                                            
The  increasing  insurance  costs  have  become too  high  for  many                                                            
businesses.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Seekins  reported  that Alaska  companies  pay  the  second                                                            
highest  rates in  the nation  for workers  compensation  insurance,                                                            
following  the state  of California.  The  medium  premium index  is                                                            
approximately  two percent compared to the rates assessed  in Alaska                                                            
of 4.6 percent.  The index for businesses operating  in the state of                                                            
North  Dakota is  the lowest  in the  nation at  1.08 percent.  This                                                            
demonstrates the higher cost to do business in Alaska.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Seekins remarked  that Alaska  has approximately  the  same                                                            
"score" as North  Dakota and asserted, "Something  is terribly wrong                                                            
with the system."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:16:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Seekins qualified  that the matter could not be fully solved                                                            
at this  time, but would  rather require  a continuing effort.  This                                                            
legislation  provides that  a task  force would  be formed over  the                                                            
following legislative  interim charged  with identifying  additional                                                            
cost  savings. The  task force  would be  comprised  of an  "optimum                                                            
number of members" to allow  for a "workable task force". However he                                                            
envisioned   additional    professional   input   from    non-voting                                                            
participants would be encouraged.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:18:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Seekins understood  concerns would  be raised, but  assured                                                            
the most  important  intent is  to address  needs  of those  injured                                                            
workers.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:20:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  pointed out  that the language  of the bill  does not                                                            
provide for a  timeframe in which recommendations  would be reported                                                            
by the task force.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:21:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAUL  LISANKIE,   Director,  Division   of  Workers'  Compensation,                                                             
Department  of Labor  and Workforce  Development,  replied that  the                                                            
report and any recommendations would be due by December 1, 2005.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:21:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GREG  O'CLARAY,  Commissioner,  Department  of Labor  and  Workforce                                                            
Development,   testified  that  the   Murkowski  Administration   is                                                            
"pleased" with the progress made with this legislation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:22:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken asked for  an overview of  the differences  between                                                            
this bill and SB 360 of the previous legislative session.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:22:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lisankie  replied  that  beyond the  intent  of  reforming  the                                                            
workers'   compensation  insurance   system,   the  two  bills   are                                                            
significantly  different.  The earlier  bill, SB  360, dealt  almost                                                            
exclusively  with  procedural  changes  to  solving  disputes.  This                                                            
current  bill attempts  to make  the process  more  efficient in  an                                                            
effort to save money.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:23:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green asked  the condition  of the  workers' compensation                                                             
insurance  system  in  Alaska  and the  consequences  of  making  no                                                            
changes.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:23:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  O'Claray  reported  that  three  underwriters  ceased  offering                                                            
insurance   in  Alaska,  two  of   which  are  major  underwriters.                                                             
Escalating  premium rates are putting  pressure on small  businesses                                                            
and  requiring  owners  to  make  decisions   about  providing  this                                                            
insurance.  Some  businesses  are  laying off  workers  or  closing.                                                            
Pressure has  recently been placed  on the Division of Insurance  to                                                            
reduce  or freeze  rates.  If this  occurs,  the State  would be  in                                                            
danger  of loosing  the remaining  three underwriters  operating  in                                                            
Alaska and  would force the State  to provide workers' compensation                                                             
insurance.   The  Murkowski  Administration   is  against   assuming                                                            
additional bureaucracy.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:24:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  noted  the language  of  Section  21 of  the  bill                                                            
relating  to penalties  or fines  for employers  who  fail to  carry                                                            
workers'  compensation  insurance. He  asked the  comparison of  the                                                            
proposed  consequences  with the  current  penalties  and fines.  He                                                            
asked the implications  to employers  and their businesses  that are                                                            
unable to obtain the insurance.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:25:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lisankie replied  that  the language  of  Section 21  is a  new                                                            
provision.  Currently, no  fines could be  assessed. This  provision                                                            
would give the Division a method for enforcement.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:26:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  posed a  scenario in which  drastic changes  in the                                                            
marketplace occur  and an employer is subsequently  unable to secure                                                            
adequate  coverage for  its workers.  In this  event, he  understood                                                            
that business would be  shut down under the provision of Section 21.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:26:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lisankie  affirmed clarifying  that  current statute  stipulates                                                            
such business closures  for an employer's failure to obtain adequate                                                            
insurance.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:27:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked if the Division  would investigate  emergency                                                            
measures to allow  businesses to continue operation  if the employer                                                            
was  unable  to obtain  insurance  between  now  and the  date  this                                                            
legislation was enacted.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:28:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lisankie  responded that  this  has  not been  considered.  The                                                            
intent  is to  contain  costs. Workers'  compensation  insurance  is                                                            
available to employers, albeit at a high cost.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:28:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  predicted a probability  that some employers  would                                                            
be unable to acquire  the insurance coverage. He asked  what actions                                                            
the Division would take to assist these businesses.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:28:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. O'Claray interjected  that the purpose of this legislation is to                                                            
implement changes  that would contain costs. Statutory  requirements                                                            
exist that  require businesses employing  workers to carry  workers'                                                            
compensation  insurance. The cost  of this insurance is the  current                                                            
concern.  The study is requested  to provide  lead time" to  examine                                                            
the data maintained by  underwriters. This data would be analyzed to                                                            
identify  changes  that  would  address  costs.  No  exemptions  are                                                            
provided to allow an employer to not secure this insurance.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:29:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  remarked that additional efforts  should be made to                                                            
attract more  underwriters  to offer coverage  within the State.  He                                                            
noted  the  deficit  in  the  "pool"  and  asked  how  it  would  be                                                            
addressed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:31:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. O'Claray told  of the limited number of underwriters.  The major                                                            
concern of underwriters  considering offering insurance in Alaska is                                                            
the appeals  commission. The Division  has received complaints  from                                                            
employers  asserting  that  cases  are  "skewed  against  them"  and                                                            
therefore  appeals  are  not  pursued.   Another  complaint  is  the                                                            
inconsistency  with the law.  The current  system involves  a three-                                                            
person panel  that hears  a claim and makes  a determination,  which                                                            
could be appealed  in superior court.  If the inconsistency  between                                                            
decisions  were eliminated,  claims  could be  settled faster.  This                                                            
would allow those workers  to make decisions sooner about whether to                                                            
remain in their current career or to change professions.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:33:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LINDA  HALL,   Director,  Division   of  Insurance,  Department   of                                                            
Community  and  Economic Development,  introduced  herself  for  the                                                            
record.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:33:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  inquired about the  impending deficit in  the event                                                            
the current system was not restructured.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:34:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hall clarified the  deficit in question related to the guarantee                                                            
association  and was addressed  in legislation  passed the  previous                                                            
session.  Reassessment of  the situation revealed  that the  changes                                                            
were successful  and that  a deficit no longer  exists. Workers  and                                                            
employers are no longer  at risk of unpaid claims. The intent of the                                                            
bill  currently before  the  Committee is  to implement  reforms  to                                                            
reduce  the cost  of claims.  Until the  overall cost  of claims  is                                                            
reduced, premiums would continue to rapidly increase.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:35:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hall  referenced an annual  report issued  by the Division,  the                                                            
latest of which identified  96 insurance providers approved to write                                                            
claims in  Alaska. Of those  only five seek  to write claims  in the                                                            
State.  If premium rates  are not  sufficient to  cover the  cost of                                                            
claims,  the potential  exists that  insurance  companies would  not                                                            
offer policies.  "Extremely" high claim costs have  been incurred in                                                            
the last five  years with insurances  companies paying out  $1.54 in                                                            
claims for every  $1 collected in premium. An assigned  risk plan is                                                            
the "last resort".                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:37:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  noted the proposed  fine of $1,000 per day  that an                                                            
employer fails  to carry workers'  compensation insurance.  He asked                                                            
if a subcontractor  on a project were found to be  without coverage,                                                            
what  party  would be  responsible  for  payment  of the  fine:  the                                                            
subcontractor,  the general  contractor  or another  party. He  also                                                            
asked whether the fine  would be imposed on each project an employer                                                            
is working.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:38:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lisankie  replied  that  the subcontractor   would be  fined  a                                                            
maximum of $1,000 per day  per employee. The proposed board would be                                                            
given  discretion to  determine the  circumstances  and whether  the                                                            
full  amount  would   be  levied.  For  example,  an   employer  who                                                            
inadvertently  allowed the policy to lapse would be  fined less than                                                            
an employee identified as a repeat offender.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:39:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked  if any  small  businesses  have  been  denied                                                            
workers' compensation insurance coverage.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:39:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Hall  explained  the  "assigned  risk  pool",   which  requires                                                            
insurers  to offer coverage  to all  employers.  The only reason  an                                                            
employer did not have this  insurance would be from a failure to pay                                                            
the premium                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:39:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked the  number of employers  included in  the risk                                                            
pool.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:39:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hall answered  that approximately  9,000 employers are  included                                                            
in the assigned risk pool.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:40:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked the number of employers that  did not pay their                                                            
premium or were unable to secure the insurance.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:40:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hall was unaware  of any. She qualified that some  disputes over                                                            
eligibility for coverage did occur.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:40:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson told  of a  medical field  pool utilized  to  provide                                                            
opportunity  for  physicians  to obtain  malpractice  insurance.  He                                                            
asked if such  an arrangement had  been considered for the  workers'                                                            
compensation insurance system to make premiums more affordable.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:40:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Hall   replied  that  the  matter   has  been  discussed.   The                                                            
aforementioned  medical pool for doctors was purchased  by a company                                                            
and no  longer qualified  for tax-exempt  status.  As a result,  the                                                            
program has  been discontinued. She  reiterated that until  the cost                                                            
of  claims  is  reduced,  the  basic  cost  of  providing   workers'                                                            
compensation  insurance would not  decrease. Some states,  including                                                            
California  and  Utah  have  a  high percentage   of state-provided                                                             
coverage.  However,   the  intent  for  Alaska  is  to  establish  a                                                            
"healthy"  competitive marketplace,  which  a state-provided  system                                                            
would not accomplish.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:42:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  surmised  this  legislation   attempts  to  decrease                                                            
premium amounts;  however if  a worker is  injured, the system  must                                                            
still have the ability to compensate that worker.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:42:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hall stressed that  the provisions in this legislation would not                                                            
change benefits as to do  so is not the intention. Providing medical                                                            
care and prescription drug  costs in Alaska is the second highest in                                                            
the nation. Every  employer would be required to maintain  a minimum                                                            
level of benefits.  The intent is  to provide good medical  care for                                                            
injured workers to allow them to return to work.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:43:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked  if unions  and  employees  would  agree  that                                                            
adoption  of  this   legislation  would  not  result   in  decreased                                                            
benefits.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:44:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lisankie qualified  that  some  changes would  be  made to  the                                                            
maximum reimbursement  amount allowed  for certain procedures.  This                                                            
could  be considered  as  affecting  benefits.  However,  the  basic                                                            
underlying structure would not be "radically" changed.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:44:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken shared  his experience  with the  business he  owns                                                            
that  employs  23 people.  The  cost of  his  workers' compensation                                                             
premium rose  23 percent in the past  year, 20 percent the  previous                                                            
year and  20 percent  the year before  that. The  total cost  of his                                                            
premium is "up to six figures".  This funding must be taken from the                                                            
company's "bottom line".                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken stressed  that this  legislation  is an attempt  to                                                            
"stop that hemorrhage",  which affects the "backbone of our economy"                                                            
i.e. small  businesses. Premium  rates are  assessed based  on claim                                                            
experience  with the  rates  of an  "unsafe shop"  higher;  however,                                                            
discounts for infrequent  claims have been eliminated as well as the                                                            
option of employing an  agent provider to "shop around" for the best                                                            
policy at  the lowest cost  is no longer viable  due to the  lack of                                                            
competition.  This affects business  operations and causes  managers                                                            
to  delay purchase  of  inventory,  new equipment  and  to  increase                                                            
wages,  which contribute  to a  successful business.  Instead  these                                                            
funds must  be utilized to pay the  workers' compensation  insurance                                                            
premium.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  remarked  upon the  continued  testimony  received                                                            
emphasizing,  "the worker  does  not get hurt"  as a  result of  the                                                            
provisions  proposed in this legislation,  as well as the  statutory                                                            
changes  enacted after the  previous legislative  session.  The bill                                                            
before the Committee  however, would make the workers'  compensation                                                            
program  more   "rigorous".  Therefore,   he  concluded   that  this                                                            
legislation  would have no negative  impact, while not changing  the                                                            
current system would result in "damage."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:48:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #1:  This amendment deletes the language  of Section 34 on                                                            
page 21, lines 7 through 11, which reads as follows.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          Sec. 34. AS 23.30.205 is amended by adding a new                                                                      
     subsection to read:                                                                                                        
          (g) Claims for reimbursement may not be submitted to the                                                              
     fund after  September 1, 2005. The fund shall  continue to make                                                            
     reimbursement payments  on claims accepted before July 1, 2006,                                                            
     or ordered  by the board, until the fund's liabilities  for the                                                            
     claim are extinguished.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  explained that department  representatives  proposed                                                            
this  amendment  as a  correction  to  changes  made by  the  Senate                                                            
Judiciary Committee.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken moved for adoption.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED without objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:49:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR  WILLIAM PFIEFER,  Alaska  Chiropractic  Society,  testified  via                                                            
teleconference  from an offnet location to four proposed  amendments                                                            
that the Society requests  be adopted. The first relates to the lack                                                            
of a chiropractic  professional  in the membership  of the  proposed                                                            
task force  on workers' compensation.  Senator Seekins announced  in                                                            
the Senate  Judiciary Committee  that chiropractic  care would  be a                                                            
major focus  of the task force. However,  Dr. Phiefer noted  certain                                                            
injuries that  chiropractors treat  comprise a large portion  of the                                                            
number of workplace  injuries. The  Society requests that  a seat on                                                            
the task force be designated  for a chiropractor and be granted full                                                            
voting privileges.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Phiefer  next  addressed the  proposed medical  services  review                                                            
study  and   requested  that  the   review  committee  include   the                                                            
professionals  who provide chiropractic  services. The study  should                                                            
also include  data collection of valid  and detailed information  in                                                            
which  recommendations   could  be based.   Without  accurate  data,                                                            
recommended  changes to the workers'  compensation program  would be                                                            
of  "little value."  He  told  of the  access  the Society  and  the                                                            
American Chiropractic  Association  have to research scientists  and                                                            
study results.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Phiefer  opposed the guidelines  proposed for inclusion  in this                                                            
legislation,  as they  have been  proven  to be  inaccurate and  not                                                            
comprehensive. The guidelines  are narrow in scope and lack complete                                                            
analysis  of the current  research. The conclusions  do not  reflect                                                            
the studies  listed in  the bibliography.  The Society recommends  a                                                            
compromise  to allow for  the Workers' Compensation  Board  to adopt                                                            
regulations and  new that reflect the most recent  research findings                                                            
when appropriate.  The proposed guidelines  should not be  specified                                                            
in statute. He  understood the intent of the legislative  committees                                                            
hearing this bill to establish  that treatment be in accordance with                                                            
standards based on scientific and evidence-based medicine.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Phiefer  requested that "major"  be replaced with "significant"                                                             
in reference to  "the aggravation question". This  would reflect the                                                            
status quo. The  definition of major requires at least  a 51 percent                                                            
burden  and such  determination  should not  be made  at this  time.                                                            
Another option  would be consideration  of imposing a higher  burden                                                            
in the determination of "disability" for preexisting conditions.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:54:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken offered  a motion  to report  CS SB  130 (JUD),  as                                                            
amended, from Committee  with individual recommendations and new and                                                            
accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There was  no objection  and CS  SB 130 (FIN)  MOVED from  Committee                                                            
with zero fiscal  note #5 from the Alaska Court System,  zero fiscal                                                            
note #7  from the  Department of  Commerce,  Community and  Economic                                                            
Development,  a  new  zero  fiscal   note  dated  4/11/05  from  the                                                            
Legislative  Affairs  Agency and  a fiscal  note  of $420,000  dated                                                            
4/9/05 from the Department of Labor and Workforce Development.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 9:55:05 AM/10:03:01 AM                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken chaired the remainder of the meeting                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

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